Richard Miller, words, and equations
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:37:11 EST
From: DepThought@aol.com
Richard Miller's observations are entirely
in keeping with the observations of 17th century Scientist/Philospher Isaac
Newton, who's second law of motion, otherwise known as the conservation
of momentum, can account for all the
phenomenae Mr. Miller claims contradict momentum considerations.
Newton's 2nd Law:
F = d(mv)/dt (Force
equals the rate of change of momentum)
In the case of a fluid moving past an airfoil,
the force must act in the direction of curvature of the foil, if the fluid
is to follow the fluid's shape. Thus the pressure gradient normal to the
foil surface must be directly related to the curvature of the surface.
Thus, low pressures on convex surfaces, and high pressures on concave surfaces.
Once the regions of low and high pressure are mapped out, it is easy to
see the source of upwash and downwash, fast and slow flow, why lift has
to act normal to the velocity vector, etc.
In short, if one takes the time to follow
through on the basic equations of motion (DO THE MATH) then one would
realize that fluid mechanics has been well understood for centuries, and
that while Mr. Miller's words are pretty, they only serve to disguise the
truth, not illuminate it.
Patrick King
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From: Jack Lambie <jlambie@inet1.inetworld.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:46:49 -0800
Aerodynamics is a most intriguing field. I
like it because it is so stimulating to think about what is really going
on. Just about anything said in that field can be true and
false depending on size of the object, the speed and the purpose
of the design. For example: The teardrop shape has lowest drag at
higher speeds but a sphere has lowest drag at very
slow speed.
A raindrop is not tear-shaped but is
a wiggling flattened blob.
A rough surface has lower drag at slow speed
but higher drag at high speed.
A flat airfoil has better lift going very
slow but a thicker curved airfoil wing has better lift a bit faster.
A airfoil curved on the bottom and almost
flat on top is better for lift just below the speed of sound to delay shock
waves and lower drag.
Highest lift is with an airfoil more deeply
arched on both top and bottom.
Flying near speed of sound things are different.
Sharp edges or swept wings are used to delay drag used that
give very poor lift at slower speeds, unless you really fly slowly, like
bugs and model planes.
Then they too need sharp leading edges
and almost flat airfoils. Flies have little hits sticking out on
their wing edges to make the air turbulent which, in a fly-sized creature,
is very viscous, sticky.
Most interesting is the confusion and misinformation
in describing lift and drag.
This article explains this most contentious
aspect, lift, correctly so we can all enjoy this most
subtle of technical subjects. But why is something that has successfully
allowed us to fly for almost a hundred years still argued about?
Here is the “standard” explanation of
lift, then why this approach has gradually created a chorus
of detractors pointing out the many anomalies. I’ll discuss why is not
“true” and give examples of confusion wrought by the Bernoulli Suction
idea. The action explanation will be shown to be more simple, descriptive
what is actually happening more accurately and with power and
goodness aerodynamic experimenters.
The standard “An airplane flies” says
the wing is shaped with a greater curve on the top of the surface
than the bottom. The air flowing over the wing must travel
farther over the top than the bottom so it must speed up to meet the air
that went past from which it was divided. As Bernoulli pointed out in 1796
“When air speeds up the pressure drops.” Thus the reduced air pressure
over the top of provides most of the lift.
Air does not rush over and
airplane wing and does not rush over the top of an air foil faster than
under the bottom. In real life the wing moves through still air.
The slight downwash behind the wing is not
caused by the pressures around the wing.
An airplane flies through the air. The air
is not going over or under the wings but is being deflected from its stationary
position by the planes’ passage. The plane is the thing doing the rushing.
As its body and wings go through the air subsonic of course,
the air ahead of the the plane begins to move out of the way, Some goes
up as the wing approaches and some is pushed down. The air has mass and
inertia. It wants to stay where it is and, when moved, it makes an action
exactly equal and opposite on the object that is moving it by... how else?
Pressure changes.
The pressure change is in response to deflecting.
Any deflection of the air both the action and the pressure differences
on the object doing it , such as a wing, are instant and simultaneous.
Because they happen at the same time, would that make them equal as cause?
There is a compelling case to pick action, not pressure, as the “cause”of
lift.
We define “caused by” with action. The wing
is moving the air so it is the thing doing something that
causes lift. The can be no pressure changes without motion.
The action to this cause results in
pressure differences. Just because the action and pressure change
is simultaneous doesn’t make them equal when we talk about cause.
More important using action
describes how any object that deflects air sets up an equal and opposite
action. This action caused by motion of the airplane also explains
a wider range of situations, not just those in fluids. The simplicity
of action3Daction, plus its ability to be sensed easily by us humans gives
the “true” cause, not changes in fluid pressure.
Action is the cause of pressure change. Action
to deflecting (accelerating) the air is the PRIMARY cause and the changes
in pressure is the SECONDARY EFFECT that transfers the action to the body.
In the NASM section “What makes a Wing Work”
the explanation is confused by using the secondary effect to explain lift.
“A wing is shaped and tilted so the air moving
over it moves faster than the air under it. As the air speeds up, the pressure
goes down. So the faster moving air above exerts less pressure on the wing
with the slower moving air below. The result is an upward push on the wing-lift.
It then talks about the amount of lift being affected by the size shape
and angle it meets the oncoming air.
What's wrong with that? First the air is not
oncoming. The plane is flying through it. Why the confusing, to students,
change in reference? It might be fine for aerodynamicists working
with wind tunnels, but for the public, tell it like its really happening.
Well you say ,”Its easier to explain with the air moving over the wing,
its all relative anyway. There is no difference if the wing moves or if
the air moves. “
Ok. If you want to
do it that way, but you better explain to the student or beginning pilot
that this explanation is not the the true state of affairs but aerodynamicist’s
jargon and an “as if” one that you are using because you think its easier
to explain that way, probably because that's the way you learned.
Try explaining everyhthing yhou know about aerodynamics from the point
of view of the wing moving through stationary air and you will gain a great
understanding of what is really happening.
Using Bernoulli is entirely passe. He died
long before anyone thought of an airplane wing lifted by his theory of
pressure change with speed.
Of course there are pressure differences over
a wing or body as it moves through a fluid or a fluid moves over it. That
is correct. But Dan Bernoulli’s theorem is really no explanation of anything.
It is just a statement of the relationship between speed and pressure.
Pressure can be measured with
gauges connected to taps, little holes in the surface and offer great
possibilities for mathematical description and computer prediction and
analysis but they are not the primary cause. Think about it. There can
be no pressure change without deflecting air. The first cause
is the air being deflected.
The New Smithsonian Air and Space
Museum is a classic example of the confusion wrought by the “virus infection”
of the Bernoulli explanation.
The Smithsonian’s “Bernoulli Brain Teasers”
can better be described by action-action. It should be called “Newtonian
Brain Teasers.” For example one exhibit text says:
“An airfoil seen from the side is curved on
top and nearly flat on the bottom. As a wing moves through the air, the
air divides to pass above and below the wing. Since the wing’s upper surface
is curved, the air rushing over the top speeds up and stretches out. This
decreases the air pressure above the wing. The air flowing below the wing
in a fairly straight line so its speed and air pressure remain the
same.”
That description of lift is full of anomalies.
Training hang gliders have a single surface
airfoil. Its the same distance over the bottom as over the top. How can
it fly? How does a plane fly upside down? How come model planes and
insects with flat airfoils fly so well?
Since the airfoil shape has not changed why
does lift increase as the angle of attack increases?
The answer to these questions are clear when
lift is described as the result of deflecting air. Any shape can create
lift at a positive angle of attack.
The wing is
moving through the air, and, below the speed of sound, the air senses
the coming wing. Air above moves forward, then up and
back and below it is pushed forward and down. Some air is pulled
along by friction with the surface. That area is called the boundary layer.
It is called a stagnant region and a stall is when lift dissappears because
the air loses energy and separates from the airfoil. In reality
the air gains energy because it is swept along with the wing. The air does
not separate but clings to the wing in a great swirling mass being pulled
along and accelerated from its quiet state before being
moved by the wing. The great increase in the energy of the air, sppeding
up and being pulled along, comes from the airplane. The energy to
pull tha air along in a stall is usually so great the plane slows
and the nose drops because of the forward of lift center balance point
and the tail which losing its downforce. There is just as much lift just
past the stall angle as just before it. Even plate flat on has a lift coefficient
over 1.17 which is better than most canards. A dethermalizer on a model
glider takes advantage of the ability to drop straight down to a
reasonably soft landing. This has been tried in full sizxe gliders and
works great but if it is allowed to go on down to the surface it would
severly damage the airplane.
“Hold piece of paper between your fingers
and blow over it. It pulls up. Why?” Air above and below the breath of
wind is pulled from its position into the high speed flow. If air is
moved down the equal and opposite action is an up force. This force
is transferred to the paper by pressure which pulls it up.
“Take two balloons put a little water
in them for steadiness then tie each with a foot of string and hang them
a few inches apart Blow between them. Newton would say they move
toward each other because the air is deflected in a curve over the balloon’s
surface. Its acceleration from its straight path and the resulting action
is a pull on the balloon.
When you go around the curve in
a car. You are pulled to the outside. So also the air going around
the balloons sets up a force opposite to the accelerations of the air that
force makes the balloons move toward each other.
“A ping pong ball is put on a flexible straw
tube and you blow in it with the ball balanced on top. The ball does not
blow away but stays in place. Why?” The Newtonian or action explanation
is simply that the air going around the curve has the equal and opposite
action to its change in direction, which creates an instantaneous force
pulling on the ball from all sides. If it starts to move to one side
it is quickly self correcting because if the air is cut off from one side
and increased on the other with its attendant increase in force pulling
it back over the center of the tube. The more air being moved the
greater reactive force.
“Take a thimble, put a piece of
light cardboard over it with tack through it extending into the hole .
Blow into the thimble and the card stays in place instead of blowing away.”
My action explanation is that the air coming out of the hole goes around
the corner at the edge of the hole in the thimble and the cardboard.
Its direction is changed. When it goes around the corner that
deflection makes a pull on the edge of the object making the air turn .
That pull holds the cardboard in place.
The “Did You Know” section shows an obstacle,
it looks like a streamlined shape like a fairing over the NDB antenna
on an airplane. It says, “When moving air encounters an obstacle
---its path narrows as it flows around the object-------Freely flowing
air ---speeds up where its path narrows and slows back down where it widens.”
Any grade school student would
look at that as say, “But Mr. Lambie the air flow widens as it goes around
the object. It has to or it would have to go right through the object.
I would have to say,”An obvious observation. “Good for you. You are
a intelligent student to question an explanation that doesn’t make sense.”
Here’s how I would explain this example
with the True description.
The air must widen, not narrow, to go around
any object. The object deflects the air, that is, causes it
to moved. This instantaneously sets up a action opposite to its deflection.
This, over the curve, would be a pull . The counter action,
of course, is transferred to the object by a minus pressure. How
else?
The primary cause of the pressure change
is action due to the air being “widened” out as it moved around the object.
The “Did You Know?” Has a most
confusing example. It shows a truck and a car passing and says that the
sideward tug you feel on your car when you pass a large truck going in
the opposite direction is caused by air pressure. The passing vehicles
form a constriction that speeds up the flow of air, reducing the pressure
between them (it makes no difference which is moving the air or vehicles.
(Thjis by the way is the only statement in the whole exhibit ointing out
the crucial liberty they re taking with reality..that it’s relative flow.
The result is the same. The higher pressure on the other side of the car
pushes it
toward the truck during the split second they pass.”
But my observant student would
say. “I looks to me that if only the air were moving the truck would have
a tailwind and the car headwind so there would be no deflection on air
by the truck at all.” True my good student, but as poor as this example
is, it would work somewhat because the car pushing the strong headwind
out of the way would be deflecting the air causing an equal and opposite
action which would give a pull. The pull action is transferred to the front
corners of the car as a lower pressure which the truck would also feel
as a pull.
I have done two education TV shows on
this and written about it in all 7 of my books. It seems radical.
It would negate every aviation and bird book dealing with movement in air
and water and require rethinking for teachers. No more blind copying
of the encyclopedia by magazines and newspapers.
Yet, I have discussed this for
years with aerodynamicists Dr. Bob LIebeck, Dr. Peter Lissaman, Dr. Paul
Mac Cready, Barnaby Wainfain, Bruce Carmichael and my friend Balan
Menen. The are unanimous in agreement with this interpretation and description
being correct.
How come the “Curved airfoil”
fallacy and why is it so often repeated? Why the
Bernoulli description has become the most used is a good question for research.
One teacher likened it to a computer virus that spreads and spreads. Bernoulli’s
simple faster-lower pressure relationship ideas were picked up when people
first began to fly. His faster-flow-low pressure idea was presented to
explain how lift is created and , while not a true explanation, somehow
appealed to the pilots and aerodynamicists. Why?
Most people then would not to think that a
special shape, curved more on the top would be the secret of lift. Perhaps
it gave a certain mystique and power to those involved with airplanes.
We all like to think we have special knowledge and this was a perfect and
subtle explanation of lift.
The general feeling I get is, perhaps excepting
Paul MacCready, is that it doesn’t rate the time involved in changing a
way of looking at something they already know and understand.
I suppose it is like when I talk about
legal language to lawyers. They largely agree that legal verbiage
is redundant, ambiguous, archaic that its almost illiterate. But they are
accustomed to it and know what is being said so who cares. Its their job.
Why make plain language law. Then people wouldn’t hire lawyers.
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From: Al Bowers <bowers@orville.dfrc.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:53:32 -0800 (PST)
Well, I looked at it. I wish that Richard didn't have to hide
his idea with words that common people don't use. This line of thinking
has also been promulgated by Peter Lissaman in his "The Meaning of Lift"
(AIAA 96-0161). But Peter's work is only _slightly_ more readable.
There is some work like this by Arvel Gentry from the late 1970s, but I
had some serious reservations with the logic behind some of Gentry's conclusions
(I didn't fault the conclusions, just his logic for them).
Along these lines, and anecdote. The
closing dinner of the 1998 MIT Symposium of Low Speed and Motorless Flight
was held in the Boston Museum of Science and Technology. Along one
wall on the ground floor is a wave machine, perhaps 120 feet long, about
8 feet deep and maybe 4 feet wide. the waves are created by a machine
on the left (south) side
and the wave travel right to crash on an artificial "beach" at the
far end. It's mesmerizing to watch, and my family already has a strong
connection to the sea (I'm the first in three generations on BOTH sides
not to got to sea as a professional sailor at some point in my life).
I was near the machine end watchin the waves form. Near the other
end were Mark Drela and Paul MacCready discussing something, what I could
not hear over the sound of the wave machine. As I walked down to
the end where Mark and Paul were standing, I picked up on the conversation.
It was one of those situations where I wanted to HEAR what they were saying,
without appearing as though I were eve's dropping on them. I needn't
have bothered. They were discussing the origin of lift. About
the time I had ascertained this (less than 20 seconds), Paul invited me
over to arbitrate their dispute. (!) I don't recall the particulars
of Mark's theory, but Paul's idea is simply _outstanding_ for it's simplicity,
ease of understanding, and elegance. Lissaman and Miller should let
MacCready do their talking for them, in my humble opinion (IMHO).
Let me see if I can do justice to Paul's explanation.
MacCready's theory is that the air has no vorticity as it approaches an
infinite span wing. But the pressure field prior to the wing causes
it to be drawn up towards the leading edge (upwash). As it contacts
the wing, the skin friction causes the boundary layer to establish vorticity
along the surface of the upper and lower surfaces. Because of the
shape and pressure distribution of the airfoil, the upper surface gains
more vorticity than the lower surface does. At the end of the airfoil,
both flows are imbued with this vorticity, and the upper surface's greater
vorticity is
exactly equal to the vorticity as described by Prantdl's lifting line
theory (this assumes that the Kutta condition holds and the flow is not
separated). The flow field aft of the wing moves downwards so that
the stagnation streamline from the leading edge of the wing exactly moves
back to the same position as prior to the wing influencing the air.
The imbedded vorticity in the air (energy) is exactly equal to the profile
drag of the airfoil. Note that the upwash exactly equals the downwash,
so there is no momentum transfer (thinking of the wing as a "turning vane").
Elegant and simple (better than Lissaman and
Miller, and WAY better than Gentry, IMHO). In general, all three
agree on salient points, though I'm still shakey on Gentry.
A last note, downwash _only_ exists in greater
amounts than upwash for _finite_ wings, and this "excess" downwash causes
induced drag, rotation of the lift vector aft, and is the part of "lift"
that can be described as a "turning vane" effect.
As for Reinhold's work on Prandtl and sin^3
span loads as having the minimum induced drag for a given wing root bending
moment, all I can say is _excellent work_. Given that it was published
in 1933, I'm a little surprised that we (the USA) had not heard of it.
Indeed, as Doug pointed out, Robert T Jones (most folks call him "RT")
did an independent derivation of this and came to the _exact_ same conclusions.
It was written up in Soaring magazine (R. T. Jones, Soaring 10/79, pg 26;
also NASA TN D-8260). But I failed to make the connection (DUH!).
As a further aside, the 1.22 longer span of
the bell would require a heavier spar, though no stronger, than that of
an elliptical. If the additional material of the bell spar were used
in the elliptical, what increase in span could we make on the elliptical?
We're playing the structures vs aero game again. But I don't think
the increased span elliptical could gain
enough against the 0.89 induced drag of the bell. I think the
bell still wins. I should do that integration and find the result...
I've run into a fascinating puzzle.
I mentioned I had been thinking about kayaks as of late. One of the
great innovations in the kayak world in the last 20 years is the "wing"
paddle. This blade develops lift in the forward direction because
of the slight outward motion of the paddlers stroke. There is a possible
20% increase in efficiency over conventional paddles. The puzzle
is that the blades are about 0.75 ft^2, and the best paddlers have a blade
velocity (through the water) of about 6.4 ft/s, and produce about 90 lbf.
(!) This implies a lift coefficient of about 3 from a single element,
single surface airfoil. My first
reaction is "No way." But if the force vectors are added up,
and the accelerations and masses accounted for, plus the drag of the kayak,
then the paddlers MUST be developing about 90 lbf. Lift coefficients
of 3. "Way." All I can come up with is dynamic vortex lift
(shades of Kasper again), and in my own personal observations, indeed wing
paddles do have a large entrained vortex that follows the blade (this is
not the same as separation, the flow is fully attached). Fascinating...
Al Bowers ...fluid dynamic puzzles...
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From: "Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech" <djarotec@bright.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:38:18
Al Bowers writes:
>As a further aside, the 1.22 longer span of the bell would require
a heavier spar, though no stronger, than that of an elliptical. If
the additional material of the bell spar were used in the elliptical, what
increase in span could we make on the elliptical? We're playing the
structures vs aero game again. But I don't think the increased span
elliptical could gain
enough against the 0.89 induced drag of the bell. I think the
bell still wins. I should do that integration and find the result...
<
The other question I have is what about whetted
area, skin friction and profile drag? If the bell distribution has a longer
span, then either it has more wing area (and more whetted area) or else
it has less chord and lower Reynolds numbers. If the spar is to stay the
same depth, then the lower chord also means airfoils with a greater % thickness,
exactly what you DON'T want at lower Re's. Maybe on large full-scale aircraft
this isn't as much of a problem, but on R/C sized models it's a MAJOR issue.
I like the lower induced drag, but not if it means killing cruise and penetration
to get it. Being able to thermal better because of an induced drag benefit
does you no good if you can't reach the thermal because of the increased
parasite drag.
Does this mean that the optimum lift distribution
overall is somewhere BETWEEN the elliptical and the sin^3 bell distribution?
Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech
djarotec@bright.net
http://www.bright.net/~djwerks/
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From: Robert Osfield <robert@mve.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:09:46 +0000
Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech wrote:
> The other question I have is what about whetted area, skin friction
and profile drag? ...........
I was thinking along these lines too.
Off the top of my head I can add a futher
two factors to the above is that increased span has with regard to thermalling
performance :
1) Increased dynamic differential across the wing, however
the bell shaped lift distribution will help reduce this effect.
2) Increased turn radius of the outer tip. Assuming a parabolic
distribution of thermal strength across the thermal radius the outside
tip will be in lower lift than the inside tip is in greater lift and consequently
producing a lower overall experienced climb rate.
Also add in factors of non-planner wakes and
you get a much more complicated picture than just elliptical and the sin^3
bell distribution.
The theoretical ideals are useful for illumiating
areas of design, but when it comes down to optimizing a real wing for various
different tasks which normally challenge it, life's much more complicated.
In this realm I expect accurate computer modelling to come into its own
helping the designer iterate towards the optimum(s:-) for their paticular
aircraft.
Rising air,
Robert Osfield, Software Development Manager,
Midland Valley Exploration Ltd,
14 Park Circus, Glasgow G3 6AX, Scotland.
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From: Al Bowers <bowers@orville.dfrc.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:02:02 -0800 (PST)
> Al Bowers writes:
>> As a further aside, the 1.22 longer span of the bell would require
a heavier spar, though no stronger, than that of an elliptical. If
the additional material of the bell spar were used in the elliptical, what
increase in span could we make on the elliptical?>>
>Don Stackhouse writes: The other question I have is what about
whetted area, skin friction and profile drag? If the bell distribution
has a longer span, then either it has more wing area (and more whetted
area) or else it has less chord and lower Reynolds numbers...>
Right, but there is a medium where you can gain in the induced drag
without too large a penalty in profile drag and you _should_ come out ahead.
> Does this mean that the optimum lift distribution overall is somewhere
BETWEEN the elliptical and the sin^3 bell distribution?<
I think it does. robert points out (correctly)
that the more components you can understand (turning, cruise, distribution
of the lift WRT the thermal, etc) the better the ultimate solution will
be.
An example of "high tech" gone wrong is the
the advent of carbon fiber spars in sailplanes. Stronger spars meant
thinner wings, but they were too stiff and lost energy in turbulence over
the older flexible spars (thicker airfoils too!). You goota think
it through!
Al Bowers
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From: Gregg MacPherson <viz@nznet.gen.nz>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:52:12 +1300
Don, Al and all,
At 08:38 AM 19/02/99, Don wrote:
>Al Bowers writes: As a further aside, the 1.22 longer span of
the bell would require a heavier spar, though no stronger, than that of
an elliptical...........>
Refering habitually to the R.T.Jones TN2249
"The Spanwise Dist. of Lift for Minimum Induced Drag of Wings Having a
Given lift and a Given Bending moment" (sorry al I still haven't got the
other papers that have been refered to): For those not up on all this,
a variation on span is allowed, while keeping the above constraints. Various
loading distributions are displayed in figure 5. A distribution with a
*1.275 span is shown which looks like a sin^3 loading with bit less loading
mid-semispan and a bit more loading at the root. Another dist. with *1.15
span is shown, which is similar but with more loading at the tip (convex
curve on graph at tip).
Figure 4 shows CDi/(CDi of the elliptic) vs
(semispan/semispanellipse). The *1.15 case above achieves max improvement
of 15% of CDi with a 15% increase in span. Further increases in span (example
the *1.275 case) yield no further reduction in CDi.
Now the *1.275 case is not an accurate sin^3
dist. so can't draw real conclusions from this, but, going out on a limb,
it looks like the Horten distribution exploits_the_principle somewhat,
but is unlikely to be the optomised case. Applogies to all, especially
Reinhold if I'm wrong. I havent read all the stuff yet.
Al, does the spar definately have to be heavier
?
>The other question I have is what about whetted area, skin friction
and profile drag? If the bell distribution has a longer span, then either
it has more wing area (and more whetted area) or else it has less chord
and lower Reynolds numbers....>
Wing area should be almost the same (comparisons are between wings generating
the same lift). The lower Re outboard makes it difficult - if turbulent
separation is starting earlier at lower Re, then there will be a bit less
lift so need slightly more area? The Re outboard will tend to have a Cd
penalty, and there won't be much compensating improvement on the bigger
root chord, but remember that the outboard chord, hence area, is small
which affects the actual CD contribution, and the Cl's are relatively low
(looking at a better place on the 2D polar?). At the moment I also think
it is possible to exploit the high taper when arranging the flap/elevon
deflections for trim at min CD at speed.
>If the spar is to stay the same depth, then the lower chord also means
airfoils with a greater % thickness, exactly what you DON'T want at lower
Re's. Maybe on large full-scale aircraft this isn't as much of a problem,
but on R/C sized models it's a MAJOR issue. I like the lower induced drag,
but not if it means killing cruise and penetration to get it. Being able
to thermal better because of an induced drag benefit does you no good if
you can't reach the thermal because of the increased parasite drag.>
In the simplest case of the comparisons underlying this discussion,
the foil % thickness would stay the same, and I don't think that presents
a major problem for spar design on the "bell" dist. wing. However some
variation on thickness could be possible. The kinds of % thickness that
would make these ides work are fine for a full sized sailplane. Full
size, the thickness can increase OK at the root. (I know that Dr Boermans
has this on some of his latest concepts).
>Does this mean that the optimum lift distribution overall is somewhere
BETWEEN the elliptical and the sin^3 bell distribution?>
That's my guess. If someone has TN2249 and a scanner mabee they could
put some of that data on Doug's site so people can get the gist of all
this better. These are quite worthy concepts. (whole paper is only
15pages)
Now, what about folding the tips of one of
these idealised distributions up into a winglet (very roughly speaking).
If we can retain a similar CDi then the winglet has some other usefull
features that we can exploit. For the *1.15 distribution this looked possible,
and led to the initial version of our sailplane.
Regards
Gregg.
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